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Showing posts with label post-docs. Show all posts
Showing posts with label post-docs. Show all posts

Thursday, January 17, 2008

How Hard is it to Get a Job?

When I was applying to grad schools, Dr. Neilsen (my undergraduate adviser) told me that I always needed to think about where I'd go after I got done at wherever I was applying. So when I applied to grad schools, I did so thinking about what I'd do after graduating from that school. Most graduates from the programs I looked at seemed happy and successful, but there were always a few horror stories. We all have seen examples of people working long and hard for a PhD in physics only to end up bouncing around in temporary positions and finally ending up somewhere they really don't want to be. For example, I know of one case where someone in numerical relativity ended up doing post-docs for 11 years before finally taking a job teaching at a community college. Maybe endless post-docs that lead to a low-paying job teaching Newton's laws sound like fun to somebody, but that somebody certainly isn't me.

So how hard is it really to find a job? The American Institute of Physics reports a very low unemployment rate for physics and astronomy PhD's (1.7% for 2004), so people must be getting jobs, but what kind of jobs and how many years of post-docs do they have to endure to get to them? The American Institute of Physics (who have some great statistics on the physics job/education market which can be found here) reports "The median annual salary for respondents with PhDs rose to $90,000 in 2004 from $87,000 in 2002", with a median age of 48. I sure wouldn't mind making $90,000 a year in 20 years or so.

But how many people get the average rosy future and how many end up at teaching 12 classes per semester at Southwestern Montana Institute of Bovine Technology? Travis Metcalfe at the National Center for Atmospheric Research here in Boulder has figured some of that out, at least for us astrophysicists. In his paper "The Production Rate and Employment of Ph.D. Astronomers", he concludes that:
  1. Ph.D. production in the U.S. correlates well with federal funding 4 years prior (when most grad students were finishing classes and looking for a research position) and that every $100 million in federal funding will produce ~50 Ph.D.'s 4 years later.
  2. For every astronomy Ph.D. produced in the past several years, that same year there were about 0.5 faculty jobs open, 0.5 research jobs open, and 1.5 post-doc jobs open. That means that only about 50% of astrophysics Ph.D.'s will get a job in academia, but, on average, nearly all will get either a faculty job or a permanent research position. However, it also means that, on average, you have to hold 1.5 post-doc positions before you get there. If the average post-doc is 2-3 years, that means that, on average, it takes ~4 years to get a permanent position.
While I'd rather have a plum faculty position waiting for me when I graduate, 4 years of post-docs and the possibility of ending up at a national lab or research facility doesn't sound so bad. So at least from Dr. Metcalfe's point of view, our futures look pretty manageable.